DAT-heads Digest #471

Contents:
  three fish ("Kyle Gustin")
  Re: Remastering help (Keith Bode)
  Re: Mercury Rev ("Jason Sherrett")
  ISO: Cry Of Love recordings from '97 (Chas)
  Re: Sony SDT-9000 audio firmware and software (Bob Ramstad)
  U2 @ Red Rocks - whole broadcast (DVD) (Henry Owings)


From: "Kyle Gustin" <kgustin@fleet204.com>
Subject: three fish
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:26:04 -0400

HI, I AM LOOKING FOR THREE FISH RECORDINGS. E-MAIL ME FOR MY LIST. THANKS
KYLE
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From: Keith Bode <tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Remastering help
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:00:04 -0700

A few years ago the word "remastering" became popular to use.  Frankly, 
the way I've seen it used is pretty abusive of the people who do master, 
or transfer shows.  To me the word means "Master again".  I don't 
believe I've ever seen the word used in that context.  To use Wavelab, 
CEP, Sound Forge and perform edits, is just that editing.   There is 
nothing wrong with editing, when needed or wanted, but I understand 
Mastering as transferring music from one format to another.  If you are 
doing that, say DAT>WAV>CD, that;s nastering, if there is no transfer 
from one media to a different media, then calling editing remastering is 
an act that strikes me as self promoting gerandiosity.  There's shows I 
soent a lot of time working on cleaning up a show that had been 
transferred to CD by someone else.  I described my work as editing.  If 
someone wants to do the recording of the show, they mastered t he show.  
If someone else transfers the show from DAT to CD, they mastered the 
CD's.  If someone ran EAC on a CD, and then edited with one of many 
recording/editing shows, IMO calling that "Remastering" is about the 
same as claiming they carried a Tandberg reel to reel deck to the 
balcony of Winterland, set up microphones, found AC supply, and recorded 
the show. 

It's just one of those little thorns in my ass that is like writing a 
lineage of a live show DSBD>DAT, when until 18 months ago there were no 
SBD's for F"OH use that were digital.  Someone tried to say DXBD meant 
the show was recorded to DAT, from the SBD.  If that is the case, why 
did they put >DAT after DSBD?

Keith

>hi, what kind of software do you have? its pretty basic/easy with the
>right software tools. I prefer Wavelab with the the "Waves" dx plugins,
>and other plugins like bbe sonic maximizer, uv22hr, etc etc.
>
>On Sun, 1 May 2005, Jeff Roy wrote:
>
>  
>
>>> I'm looking for someone who can help me with some
>>> remastering of 2 shows I recently recorded.(Lenny
>>> Kravitz & Motley Crue)  I dont have the capabilities
>>> nor the know-how to do them myself.  Any help would be
>>> appreciated.  I can provide more info upon request.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advance help,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>





From: "Jason Sherrett" <sherrett@speakeasy.net>
Subject: Re: Mercury Rev
Reply-to: sherrett@speakeasy.net
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 01:24:37 +0000

I know the question of Mercury Rev's current taping policy was posed here=
 a couple times in recent months. I was just informed today that they are=
 no longer allowing audio taping (audience or board) at either their head=
line shows or shows where they are opening for someone else. Don't know w=
hy, they just said no. Sorry.

-Jason





From: Chas <lvtapetrader@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO: Cry Of Love recordings from '97
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:00:16 -0700

I'm looking for anyone who taped the band "Cry Of Love" on their 1997 
tour to support the Diamonds And Debris album.  I have tons of other 
bands to trade.

Chas




From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sony SDT-9000 audio firmware and software
Reply-To: rramstad@alum.mit.edu
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:36:12 -0700

More details...

From my perspective, initializing the drive into audio mode doesn't
seem to depend on write protect tabs being on or off or whatnot.  The
procedure I've been using with Sony SDT-9000 to force audio mode in
Linux is as follows...

1) Load an audio tape.

2) mt -f /dev/st1 status

/dev/st1 is the device on my computer, yours will likely be different.

mt will probably report a density code 0x0

3) mt -f /dev/st1 setblk 0

4) mt -f /dev/st1 setdensity 0x80

5) mt -f /dev/st1 status

mt should report a density code 0x80

6) mt -f /dev/st1 eject

Now, load up the tape you want to read and do

7) mt -f /dev/st1 rewind

8) mt -f /dev/st1 status

mt should report a density code 0x80 and you're all set to read the DAT.

Now, the hard part from here is software.  read_dat doesn't seem to
behave particularly well with the Sony SDT-9000.  I've had a lot of
problems with it creating many small files for no apparent good
reason.  When I looked into it, the two possibilities were poor
handling of TOC data on some tapes I have which have TOC, and also
poor handling of errors reported by the Sony drive.  (As opposed to my
Seagate Archive Python which never reports errors, ever...)

wdat wouldn't work for me at all, but I took a look at the code and
voila, there in tape.c was an attempt to set density code 0x79.  I
changed that to density code 0x80 and wdat would now read tapes for
me.

I only got wdat working for me as of a few minutes ago, so the jury is
still out on feature set and whatnot... the Sony SDT-9000 seem very
very touchy when it comes to wanting super clean heads and definitely
tend to overreport errors.  That said, error reporting and the time at
which it happened is a HUGE benefit and will catch problems that might
not otherwise be heard...  and also opens up the possibility of some
kind of multiple read / overlap / best three of five strategy with old
DAT tapes, I dunno.

Part of me has a really warped idea of writing my own script which
simply uses dd to take raw data off the drive, and then analyze it at
leisure.  I wonder if an approach like that might allow for rereading
problematic sections easily...  or if there might be a similar
approach given how cheap and easy storage is these days.

Hopefully all of this helps someone else out there.  If you have any
war stories of Sony SDT-9000 DAT -> WAV, especially under Linux,
please share.

-- Bob



From: Henry Owings <henry@chunklet.com>
Subject: U2 @ Red Rocks - whole broadcast (DVD)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 02:23:14 -0400

Does anybody have this? I'd love to set up a trade.



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