DAT-heads Digest #612

Contents:
  ISO Green Day / and got caught taping. ("Tim Egan")
  Re: International taping run ("Mr. Fang")
  Gatwick security ("Roger")


From: "Tim Egan" <eedetailing@qwest.net>
Subject: ISO Green Day / and got caught taping.
Reply-To: "Tim Egan" <eedetailing@qwest.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:51:28 -0600

Folks,
Looking for a tape of the current tour by Green Day.
Taped them 9-21-2005 at the Delta Center, Salt Lake City,
but got caught half way thru the show. Damn.

Had fun with the cops, in their 'detaining' room, they kept trying
to turn my  M1 off, which had the hold set. Kind funny. I told
one of them that I would show him how to turn it off, because
I couldn't stand watching the deck kick his ass.
I got to go back and finish watching the concert after surrendering
the tape. Had I been able to erase it, they probably would have
let me keep the tape too, but I did not have a good way to
fake erasing it, so I just let it go. I guess you gotta 
sacrifice one to the taping gods every once in a while.

Not sure what gave me up, but I was  only 3 seats away from
the aisle, a cop probably spotted the mikes on my hat and wires
running thru my hair. Lessons learned: At Higher security venues,
I think I'll come up with mike mounts on my shoulders, wires running
inside the shirt. And, once taping, dont fiddle with the deck.
Getting thru security was dicey, they wanded me, but my deck was
next to my goodies, and they missed it there. So, I was probably
a little cocky having beat them.

TimE



From: "Mr. Fang" <alone@waste.org>
Subject: Re: International taping run
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:19:03 -0500 (CDT)

> 1) Airport security and customs procedures going to the UK
> (London-Gatwick) and back.

I flew out of Gatwick four days after the July 7th bombings, and my DAT
deck and mics didn't raise any eyebrows.  In fact, before leaving London I
didn't even attract any attention when I was taking the gear out of a
backpack to make field recordings in stations and trains in the
Underground.  But I wouldn't even think about doing that now, since the
police have 'shoot to kill' orders.  I'm assuming you've heard about the
unarmed Brazilian guy who was tackled and then shot seven times in the
head on one of the trains, because the police thought he might be a
terrorist.

> 2) Venue security at British venues in general.  The places I will be
> taping are smaller 1000-2000 seat halls.

You can assume that security will be similar to comparably sized American
venues.

-thomas



From: "Roger" <roger@moroney.org>
Subject: Gatwick security
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:33:26 -0400

I fly into Gatwick several times a year from the US, most recently in
August. Heading over again in Oct. After an interminable walk, at least from
the Delta gates, you go through immigration. This last trip took longer for
the line to move but they didn't ask me much. They don't look in anything
here and you won't have your checked luggage yet anyway. Make sure you have
their form filled out before landing to save time, and have your passport
ready. I hate it when people start fumbling around for it when they are
standing at the desk. Do they think they just crossed into Kansas or
something? Anyway, head down the ramp to baggage reclaim. Pick up your
checked stuff, if any, and go through the "nothing to declare" doors from
baggage reclaim straight out to the curb. I did see that they pulled one
person off to the side and were asking questions on this last trip, which
was after the underground bombings. Really, inbound isn't a problem and
neither is outbound.

Can't comment on venue security as I've either not had time to goof off or
there wasn't anything to go see. Music wise, plenty of other stuff to go see
of course.

let me know if you have any specific questions on Gatwick.

Roger
roger@moroney.org




From: tapeheadtoo@aol.com
Subject: International taping run
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:51:08 -0400

Hi fellow DAT heads

I followed the recent thread on taking gear through airport security.
I have done so many times in the US and never encountered
any problem.  They seem to be more interested in confiscating my
tiny toenail scissors, than even taking out my gear for inspection.
(Seriously, I think it's only been looked at maybe once.)

However, now I am planning a trip to the UK.  I am concerned about
security issues, especially in light of the recent London bombings.
Would anyone be able to advise me on the following:

1) Airport security and customs procedures going to the UK
(London-Gatwick)
and back.

2) Venue security at British venues in general.  The places I will be
taping are smaller 1000-2000 seat halls.

Many thanks,
TT




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