DAT-heads Digest #680
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ISO Any Tracy Chapman or Ben Taylor Live Audio from 2005 Tour ("tchapman livetrade")
Re: re: grateful dead boycott? huh? (tesla69@threelobed.com)
Re: grateful dead boycott? huh? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Liam_Se=E1n_Kennedy?=)
re: grateful dead boycott? huh? (Barry Welch)
Brian Setzer Orchestra (Ryan Gear)
From: "tchapman livetrade" <tracychapman_live@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Any Tracy Chapman or Ben Taylor Live Audio from 2005 Tour
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:25:24 +0000
Hello everybody.
I'm currently looking for any live shows from Tracy Chapman's current USA
and European Tour.
Also looking for any Ben Taylor Live shows. Ben Taylor supported Tracy
throughout her USA tour and part of her European Tour.
I have Live shows of Tracy Chapman and Ben Taylor (from the current tour) to
trade in return.
Let me know if you can trade.
Thanks
Website:
Tracy Chapman Live Show Trade:
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/tracychapman_live/index.jhtml
From: tesla69@threelobed.com
Subject: Re: re: grateful dead boycott? huh?
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:51:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Bob S." <onalimb@hotmail.com>
> the grateful dead tape trading community did well for a real long time as
> that. a community. not a bunch of anonymous leechers off the great server
> in
> the sky. maybe its time to get to know the neighbors again.
I'd like to 2nd this motion - and while I'm not a Dead trader (though I've
never met one I didn't like) I'd personally like to see more people taping
underground sounds now! The anonymity and sterility of the download
"community" is one of my big criticisms of it; many
of my best friends over the past decade have been tapers or connected to
taping somehow (yeah I'm a geek but like I care anymore what anyone
thinks)...
cheers
Jim
looking for wacky stuff like fontanelle, text of light, other dimensions
in music, tower recordings and adolph satan
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Liam_Se=E1n_Kennedy?= <liam@fedney.org>
Subject: Re: grateful dead boycott? huh?
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:44:22 -0500
FWIW, the Dead brought back the audience tapes on archive.org, which is
what I would
personally be interested in. For those who are complaining about the
anonymity of the
downloading community, some of us could equally well have complained as
such about the
trading community. For instance I knew the other folks who were taping
in the same
locations, with similar equipment and likes as me-- why share the tapes
with other folks
with much less investment, many of whom mislabeled the tapes anyway?
Well long story
shortened, tapers shared the tapes and traders benefited, as did the
tapers themselves.
I object to the whining of the petition that was written threatening a
"boycott of GDM."
However, as far as having the music out there, the cat is out of the bag
and there will
be downloaders forever. Given that archive.org is responsive to
requests from Bands
to police content, its better for the GD than other avenues. If there
had been something
from a taper's perspective rejecting the archive.org decision, I would
of signed it. I
didn't want to write one and I didn't think the petition out there
reflected what I would
say to GDP.
As an old trader, I see the value of such a site. I don't listen to
much GD at all, but
every once in a while I want to hear a certain song, recorded in a
certain way
(schoeps sub-cards, various omnis) and the archive is a lot more
convenient than
some of the BT sites where people seem to cut off seeds very quickly.
And were
I to trade with my old friends, they would either want a much larger
trade than I
have interest in, or are a lackadaisical as I am. I would much rather
make a trade
for jazz, or download a Van Morrison or Gordon Lightfoot or Buzz Busby show.
Archive.org also has old .78s, which I have poked at occasionally (I can
hear
songs my mother used to sing to me).
Lastly there are folks who go to a lot of effort to create communities
within
the download realm, so its a mistake to write them all off as
"leechers." Even
on archive.org some folks take the effort to write up reviews. I think
it was
good to see the GD ultimately opened up their mind about archive.org and
technology is just going to keep changing and I am going to keep going
with it,
instead of thinking back to the days when we cloned all night in a hotel
room.
Sean
From: Barry Welch <barryw@io.com>
Subject: re: grateful dead boycott? huh?
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:47:02 -0600
Yeah.... What Bob S. said... Nice job Bob... Very well put....
I find most of the whinin' on most lists I subscribe to coming from a
generation
of Napster/Kazza kids who feel entitled to free music.....
Long Live the Good Ol' GRATEFUL DEAD and their music...
& Neil Young too
--
"How can all those people
Afford so many things?
When I was young people wore
What they had on."
b
Post Script:
This just in... (interesting development)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/01/gratefuldead.download.ap/index.html
>
>ive been getting email about this and read sean's post. as far as im
>concerned, i really couldnt care less if they dont have all of their shows
>available for download.
>i dont know much about this downloading thing and dont really care to but
>let me ask this - is there
>any band that lets you download ALL of their shows?
>and not audience tapes...
>the band's tapes.
>and if there is such a generous band, is the music available of the same
>quality as the good old grateful dead? probably not.
>
>the grateful dead tape trading community did well for a real long time as
>that. a community. not a bunch of anonymous leechers off the great server in
>the sky. maybe its time to get to know the neighbors again.
From: Ryan Gear <ryan@crewcial.org>
Subject: Brian Setzer Orchestra
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:15:33 -0500
I won tickets to see this show next week off of a local radio station.
Anyone know if he has any taping policy? I'm just curious. Though I
think it might be an all christmas song show, so I may just go to the
show and drink.
r.
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