DAT-heads Digest #701
Contents:
Black Sabbath 2005 shows (BCLedfoot@aol.com)
WTB: Pair AKG 460 Mic bodies ("Sanjay M. Suchak")
waters (Dat Head)
Core Sound Binaurals for Sale ("Eric Bogart")
Fwd: Re: Brian Setzer taping policy (josh@unified-tech.com)
Looking for James Taylor tape ("Tom Boldway")
ISO Setlist for the X-Mas Jam 12-17-05 ("KUZEN J")
BSO Christmas Tour 2005 ("CC")
FS: Zaolla 3' XLR > XLR pair (rkpowers)
From: BCLedfoot@aol.com
Subject: Black Sabbath 2005 shows
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:30:20 EST
Hello
Looking for tapers/clones of Sabbath 2005 shows...especially Auburn/Seattle
8/11/05 among others.
Contact via e mail. Large list to trade.
Thanks,
-Brian
From: "Sanjay M. Suchak" <sms21@geneseo.edu>
Subject: WTB: Pair AKG 460 Mic bodies
Reply-To: sms21@geneseo.edu
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:26:40 -0500 (EST)
Looking for a pair of AKG 460 microphone bodies. No capsules needed
unless you have an extra ck2x cap laying around. Let me know what you
have.
Thanks,
Sanjay
sms21@geneseo.edu
From: Dat Head <dathead2@gmail.com>
Subject: waters
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500
Roger Waters
Palais Omnisports de Bercy
Paris, France
July 6, 1984
"Paris 6.7.84" - label unknown
Disc One:
1. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun 8:37
2. Money 8:11
3. If 3:48
4. Welcome To The Machine 8:16
5. Have A Cigar 6:30
6. Wish You Were Here 6:26
7. Pigs On The Wing 1:44
8. In The Flesh 4:23
9. Nobody Home 4:47
10. Hey You 4:51
11. The Gunners Dream 7:16
64:49
Disc Two:
1. 4:30 AM (Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad) 3:28
2. 4:33 AM (Running Shoes) 4:17
3. 4:37 AM (Arabs With Knives And West German Skies) 3:20
4. 4:39 AM (For The First Time Today - Part 2) 3:13
5. 4:41 AM (Sexual Revolution) 5:31
6. 4:47 AM (The Remains Of Our Love) 3:42
7. 4:50 AM (Go Fishing) 7:06
8. 4:56 AM (For The First Time Today - Part 1) 1:32
9. 4:58 AM (Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin) 3:07
10. 5:01 AM (The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking) 6:17
11. 5:06 AM (Every Strangers Eyes) 4:58
12. 5:11 AM (The Moment Of Clarity) 3:13
13. Brain Damage/Eclipse 5:58
55:43
Source: Audience
CD Reference:
Paris 6.7.84
LP Reference:
Comments:
The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking: World Tour
Tour Dates
16,17.6.84 Johanneshovs Isstadion, Sandstuv=E4gen, Stockholm, Sweden
19.6.84 Sportpaleis Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands
21,22.6.84 Earls Court Exhibition Hall, Earls Court, London, England
(no encore was performed at the first show)
26,27.6.84 National Exhibition Centre, Birmingham, West Midlands, England
3.7.84 Hallenstadion, Zurich, Switzerland
6.7.84 Palais Omnisports de Bercy, Paris, France
17-19.7.84 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Connecticut, USA
20-22.7.84 Brendan Byrne Meadowlands Arena, East Rutherford, New Jersey, US=
A
24.7.84 Spectrum Theatre, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
26.7.84 Rosemont Horizon, Chicago, Illinois, USA
28,29.7.84 Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
31.7.84 The Forum, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking
After the Animals tour of 1977, Waters began writing two separate
pieces of work. In 1979 the band was given a choice to record one of
these pieces, The Wall or The Pros And Cons Of Hitch-hiking. They
chose The Wall because it was considered the less personal of the two
and seemed the better one to work with, although Gilmour said the
demos of the two concepts sounded very similar and obviously needed a
lot of work. Gilmour also claimed that they had not discounted doing
Pros and Cons at a later date, but as it turned out after The Final
Cut, Waters was inclined to work on this album as a solo artist.
Recording for the album took place February and December 1983 in
London, using Olympic Studios, Eel Pie Studios and Waters own Billiard
Room, the studio were his demos are constructed. The album is a sexual
fantasy and the album takes the format of a 42 minute dream, which is
the length of the album. As Waters himself explains in a 1984
interview, "Within the context of these dreams, the subconscious is
weighing up the pros and cons of living with one woman within the
framework of a family ... against the call of the wild, if you like"
Waters was to soon to learn the problems of going solo.
MTV failed to adequately promote him, partly because of his refusal to
answer any questions concerning Pink Floyd when interviewed before the
first Earls Court concert in 1984. Not only was the interview not
shown on MTV, but they all but ignored the three promo clips from the
album. Perhaps this was a factor in the poor public reaction to the
first single, the title track to the album, which was widely released.
Although MTV did air a short documentary of Waters in 1985, his
further reluctance in dealing with MTV was to hurt him in the future
when they were to give a lot more attention to Gilmour's Pink Floyd
during the 1987 battle. In addition, Waters found that he kept his
anonymity during the Pink Floyd years better than he imagined: "I
thought that ... people did kind of identify me with quite a lot of
the work that went into the Floyd. Particularly in terms of the shows,
but they didn't."
The album was to get some publicity but not in the way Waters had
wanted. The front cover picture of model Linzi Drew hitch-hiking naked
was condemned by many feminist groups. It was considered sexist with
some claiming it even advertised rape. Many posters advertising the
album were ripped down and destroyed by protesters. A censored cover
even appeared on Japanese albums and reissue American albums. The
censoring takes the form of a black box over the model's bottom.
Waters second wife Carolyne, to whom the album is dedicated, knew Eric
Clapton's wife, Patti Boyd Harrison Clapton. There is a story from a
friend of Clapton, that he agreed to work on the album and tour after
a drinking session with Waters. Regardless, Waters played Clapton some
demos and, despite criticism of those around him, including his
manager, Clapton played on the album and 1984 tour after long wanting
to play anonymously in another person's band. By the end of the 1984
tour, however, Clapton said, according to Rolling Stone magazine, that
he was tired of the tour because "of the rigidity of it ... I was
feeling a bit stifled." But Waters was soon to work with Clapton again
with Waters co-writing the opening theme to the movie "The Hit", the
score for which Clapton was responsible for.
The live show was designed by Mark Fisher and Jonathon Park, with the
aid of film-makers Nicholas Roeg and Bernard Rose, plus animation from
Gerald Scarfe. The stage was set up like a bedroom in which the dream
takes place, with a working TV that shows old movies before the show
and at the interval.
The back screen was 30 metres across and 9 metres high, designed for 3
x 35mm projectors. The show was not as complicated as people think
according to Jonathon Park. The only problem was synchronising the
three projectors together, off which the click track for the
performers and the sound effects was produced. A description of the
tour set is described in REG 15 Waters US record company, CBS, did not
support the 1985 concerts as they felt he had nothing to promote and
what they really wanted was a new Pink Floyd record. Waters reasons
for this tour was the favourable reaction he got during the USA leg of
the 1984 tour where he only played 10 concerts in 6 cities. Even
without Eric Clapton, the 16 concerts did reasonably well, with a
special show being the New York concert of March 28 1985 as the
world's first holophonic (that is, directional sound) broadcast.
Because of the expense of the shows, Waters lost more than $700,000
during the Pros And Cons tour. Apparently, the backdrop film itself
cost $400,000. A film on the concept was proposed, and it was in 1987
that a press release for the Radio KAOS album claimed a film
adaptation of the Pros And Cons had been completed, though nothing has
been heard since.
Roger Waters Interview w/Chris Salewicz, June 1987
CS: Your first record after Pink Floyd was The Pros And Cons Of
Hitchhiking. How did that sell?
RW: The record sold six hundred thousand copies. But the Hitchhiker
tour sold appallingly in Europe. Even in London I had to use almost
all the money in advertising to get people to buy tickets. I cancelled
loads of shows. And my budget was based on selling out loads of shows.
So I was about four hundred grand down at the end.
CS: You say you felt very satisfied after completing Dark Side Of The
Moon and The Wall. But do you generally feel reasonably pleased with
what you've done?
RW: I think Radio KAOS is some of the best stuff I've ever done. Pros
And Cons was bitty. The Wall I was very happy with. The Final Cut was
absolutely misery to make, although I listened to it of late and I
rather like a lot of it. But I don't like my singing on it. You can
hear the mad tension running through it all. If you're trying to
express something and being prevented from doing it because you're so
uptight...It was a horrible time.
We were all fighting like cats and dogs. We were finally realising -
or accepting, if you like - that there was no band. It was really
being thrust upon us that we were not a band and had not been in
accord for a long time. Not since 1975, when we made Wish You Were
Here. Even then there were big disagreements about content and how to
put the record together.
CS: When did you realise it was finally the end?
RW: Well, there are those who contend it's not over, of course (laughs
wryly). But making The Final Cut was misery. We didn't work together
at all. I had to do it more or less single-handed, working with
Michael Kamen, my co-producer. That's one of the few things that the
'boys' and I agreed about. But no-one alse would do anything on it.
It sold three million copies, which wasn't a lot for the Pink Floyd.
And as a consequence, Dave Gilmour went on record as saying, "There
you go: I knew he was doing it wrong all along." But it's absolutely
ridiculous to judge a record solely on sales. If you're going to use
sales as the sole criterion, it makes Grease a better record than
Graceland. Anyway, I was in a greengrocer's shop , and this woman of
about forty in a fur coat came up to me. She said she thought it was
the most moving record she had ever heard. Her father had also been
killed in World War II, she explained. And I got back into my car with
my three pounds of potatoes and drove home and thought, good enough.
From 'An inteview with Mark Fischer' by Alastair McLean:
Alastair:
I saw The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking show at the N.E.C. Birmingham
in 1984, again a brilliant show, how long did it take you to design
this set?
Mark:
I can't remember, but not very long. It was a simple show, the real
effort went into making the very expensive $400,000.00 film directed
by Nick Roeg, and Gerald Scarfe etc.
Alastair:
Technically speaking, was this show more or less complex than The Wall show=
s?
Mark:
It was a very simple show. The only technical problem was
synchronizing three 35mm projectors with the SMPTE on the multi-track
tape recorders. The three projectors at the end of The Wall had run
wild of the sound, though in synch with each other. The Pros and Cons
projectors eventually ran in synch with each other and with the
multi-tracks slaved to them.
Doreen Chanter backing vocals
Eric Clapton guitar
Mel Collins saxophone
Michael Kamen keyboards
Katie Kissoon backing vocals
Andy Newmark drums
Tim Renwick guitar; bass guitar
Chris Stainton keyboards; bass guitar
Roger Waters bass guitar; vocals
Quality: VG
***YEAH, MY FATHER WAS KILLED IN THE WAR.***
--
The difference between men and women is simple:
A man falls in love with a woman he is attracted to,
a woman becomes attracted to a man she fell in love with.
From: "Eric Bogart" <bogart.16@osu.edu>
Subject: Core Sound Binaurals for Sale
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:29:41 -0500
Subject line says it. I'm looking to sell a pair of core-sound binaurals
with standard battery box. I lost my wallet over the holiday weekend, and
need to raise some cash. E-mail me directly if interested with an offer.
You know you can afford it--think of all the money you got for solstice!
Eric
From: josh@unified-tech.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Brian Setzer taping policy
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:08:34 -0700
===== Forwarded message from SetzerSite <BrianSetzerSite@comcast.net> =====
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:28:22 -0500
From: SetzerSite <BrianSetzerSite@comcast.net>
Reply-To: SetzerSite <BrianSetzerSite@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Brian Setzer taping policy
To: josh@unified-tech.com
Josh,
As long as you make a tape for your OWN collection, Brian is cool with it.
All the best,
Tommy Maguire
BrianSetzer.com
===== Original Message =====
From: <josh@unified-tech.com>
To: <BrianSetzerSite@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:15 PM
Subject: Brian Setzer taping policy
> Does Brian Setzer have a taping policy? I'd love to be able to make a
> tape for
> my own personal collection.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Josh
>
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From: "Tom Boldway" <jboldway@hotmail.com>
Subject: Looking for James Taylor tape
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:11:17 -0500
Hello all - one of my DATS broke - labeled "James Taylor 1970 Syracuse NY &
Dead 5-24-69."
The James Taylor concert with song "pretty boy floyd" is what I'm aftter as
I assume it's impossible to repair the tape - broekn and stretched out.
Thanks!
Tom Boldway
jboldway@hotmail.com
From: "KUZEN J" <kuzen_j@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Setlist for the X-Mas Jam 12-17-05
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:39:06 -0500
1st of all, I wish all a Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas.
I am in search of the complete set list from the Warren Haynes Christmas Jam
in Asheville,NC and the Pre Jam the night before. I got to start Indexing my
dats this week while I'm still off from work.
On the setlist if you got who played with who that will be great. I tried to
keep up with it but I might have missed some guest spots.
Thank so much,
Kuzen
From: "CC" <stl_cc@yahoo.com>
Subject: BSO Christmas Tour 2005
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:46:16 -0800
Did anyone tape the Jackson Rancheria, or any other show from this tour?
Thanks
From: rkpowers <rkpowers@gmail.com>
Subject: FS: Zaolla 3' XLR > XLR pair
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:08:56 -0500
I have a pair of Zaolla silverline 3' XLR>XLR interconnects for sale @
$45 shipped.
contact: rkpowers@gmail.com
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