DAT-heads Digest #816

Contents:
  Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group? (Graham Newton)
  recording Tibetan bowls? (Eugene Hu)
  Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group ("Martin")
  Frank Wakefield Band looking for dat tapers for Emory Gap TN show ("Jeff Rumrunner")
  Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group? ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
  Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group? (digitunes)


From: Graham Newton <gn@audio-restoration.com>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group?
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:04:21 -0400

Liam Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.tech.xo.com>
Sean wrote...

> As a follow up to the traffic about SPAM to the list, one thing
> I have been thinking of asking about for a while is what folks
> think postitive/negative of moving DAT-heads to a commercial email
> service.
<snip>
> Hunt, the Oade Brothers, Terrapin (except at the beginning), and 
> others improved on this and there are enough things to do with 
> DAT-heads,  that moving it to another email platform would provide
> more functionality for users... the cost is those platforms do 
> include ads with messages/digests.
<snip>
> I am happy to keep the list around as people do use it, but to really
> improve upon it is more work than I think current volume warrants.

Hi Sean, and all ships at sea...

I think J Levene said it best:-

> From: J Levene <jlevene@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group?
> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
> as a member of this group for at least 10 yrs, I think
> the movement to Yahoo or Google is primarily up to the
> admin.  If the current system is taking too much work
> and there is no more joy or love in the adventure,
> then move it.  
> If you are keeping count of which group to move to I
> vote for Yahoo as I am already a Yahoo member and I
> have not had any issues with firewalls or system "take
> overs" by Yahoo even though I have installed their IE
> toolbar plugin.

For many years, I also have been on the DatHeads list, mostly lurking and 
listening, and it has been well run.  Recently, the InterNet snakes have 
crawled out from under their rocks and have managed to post their drivel to the 
list.

If the present list is working well, there is no need to change it if the 
desired blocking of the spammers can be accomplished with only slight 
inconvenience to members, and without adding to the work load of the list owner.

I own a few YahooGroups lists and moderate another one. There has been no 
trouble with Yahoo and since new members must be approved AND I put them all on 
moderate for a few posts, we have clean lists.  There are spammer attempts, but 
  all have been caught by the moderating process, and if they find they can't 
get their drivel posted, perhaps they will move on to greener fields.




... Graham Newton

-- 
Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com
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consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR's new CAMBRIDGE processes.



From: Eugene Hu <hueugen@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject: recording Tibetan bowls?
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:10:02 -0700

Anyone here have any experience recording Tibetan bowls?  Any
tips on mics and placement to get started?  I'm pretty clueless
here, although they don't strike me as the kind of instrument
that wants to be close miked.

-Eugene




From: "Martin" <mwk_public@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:57:38 +0100


Personally, I like the list.

-M



From: "Jeff Rumrunner" <rumrunners333@hotmail.com>
Subject: Frank Wakefield Band looking for dat tapers for Emory Gap TN show
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:46:48 -0700

If interested Please reply to Jim Moss
FWB@Candlewater.com
====

We are playing there
May 12th and maybe on the 13th. This is Frank Wakefield's
first time back to Emory Gap TN since he was a kid.
It is being billed as Frank Wakefield's Return To Emory Gap Tour.
Maybe you can pass this on to your list of tapers.
Have them contact me at FWB@Candlewater.com

Thanks
Jim Moss
FWB





From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group?
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:58:27 -0500

I like it the way it is.  I can live with the occasional spam getting 
through.  It beats spam on every post (ala Yahoo or whatever).

-- 
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.



From: digitunes <digitunes@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads as a Yahoo or Google Group?
Reply-To: digitunes <digitunes@pipeline.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:01:14 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

> I would sure hate to see this list become a yahoo group.

>>I would, too; yahoogroups is not particularly good at spam filtering
>>(as those on laptop-tapers have recently observed).

As the moderator of the Peter Rowan yahoo group I'd like to weigh in on this.
There are reasonable spam filters in a yahoo group though it does require
actions by a moderator to insure that the spammers are kept out.   

Here's how I do it:

1.  All membership requests require approval by me.

2.  I send an email reply to prospective member to engage in some Rowan related
conversation.  No reply = no membership.

3.  When a new member is approved, their posts are set to "moderated", which
means I must approve.

4.   After the first on-topic post, I change membership to "un-moderated".

This activity takes about 10 min per week of my time, at most.   

The Rowan group has a low volume and small membership (~500), compared to
DAT-heads so this may not be the solution but it works fine for us.

As to having to change firewall settings etc, that's simply not true.

YMMV,
Marc





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