DAT-heads Digest #992

Contents:
  Re: I guess we should call the digital recording-heads now? (Geoff)
  Re: Wha? ("Karl L")
  iso: phish NYE99>00 sunrise set (Nick Zuccaro)
  Re: Wha? ("Jason Sherrett")


From: Geoff <geofry@speedsite.com>
Subject: Re: I guess we should call the digital recording-heads now?
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:35:50 -0600


Re: I guess we should call the digital recording-heads now? I said this 
as a joke. Not meant for any serious discussion. Oops.




From: "Karl L" <timmytucker@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Wha?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:37:38 -0500

But wasn't there only one company out there that made the transports for the
DAT machines?
And didn't they stop making them like 4-5 years ago?
When the companies finally run out of stock (if they haven't already) then
the DAT medium will truely start to die off.

BTW you mention Betacam and professionals which still prefer it, this
arguement doesn't apply.  With DAT not many pros are using it anymore
because of the limiting 16/44.1 (or 48) bitdepth/sampling rates.  It's
easier and cheaper to make recordings that sound better then DAT's with
current technology.  I also know a couple of people that own their own
studios (one of them is fairly big here in Toronto) and their DAT machines
sit unused these days.  If a musician wants a quick copy of a studio session
or whatever it's easier and more convenient these days just to burn a copy
onto disc as most people have access to cd players.

Anyway the short of it is that the pros are not using DAT much and that was
the only market that kept it alive, now that they have moved on us hobbyists
are in trouble if we don't transfer are stuff to something else eventually.

Later
Karl

>
> Some of you might think that DAT is going the way of
> the Dodo (or to put it in tech terms, beta), but what
> you pessimists don't realize is that when a medium has
> been so useful and so viable for so long, it doesn't
> slip away. If one looks to History for answers we find
> that people are still recording onto tape, and
> _prefer_ it for it's natural analog sound.
> Certainly the same arguement can't be given for DAT,
> but it's been around a very long time.
> It wasn't until fairly recently that betacams were out
> out to pasture. Long after consumer beta died,
> professionals still used the medium. Betacams are
> still very expensive because they're still useful, but
> most find that DV is cheaper with similar results.
>
> DAT was never a consumer medium. Because of that there
> are warehouses full of data stored on DATs (my home
> bing one of them). It would be foolish for the
> principle makers of DAT hardware to abandon the
> medium.
>
> I think it's easy to jump on the bandwagon for the new
> exciting "upgrade" in technology, but as we've seen
> with the renewed interest in vinyl by even those who
> weren't born when the first CDs hit stores, tried and
> true formats will stick around as long as they need
> to...which may well be long after even the most
> hardcore among us have long passed on to something
> else.
>
> Aadam
>






From: Nick Zuccaro <nmz77@yahoo.com>
Subject: iso: phish NYE99>00 sunrise set
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:49:17 -0800 (PST)


hey y'all, i'm transferring my old shn discs to dvd/flac and it
seems as if i lost a few of the discs from the sunrise set, it's
the u89 omni source, what i'm really looking for is for somebody
to do an ftp trade for the few discs i'm missing, but it might
be easier just to grab the whole set over again. there's a
schoeps source on etree now, but i think i would rather have the
omnis...

in other related news, i'm also looking for a bunch of phish
97.98 era shows whith _known lineage_ because back in the day
when cd burners were new i was so happy just to get discs and i
didn't care too much about sources, you know, so i could be like
the top of a d>a tape tree...you guys remember tape trees don't
you? nobody?  ok, that one old guy in the back does :) 

i would love to do an FTP trade if that's possible...LMK

peace in the middle east - Nick

coda:
i'm trying to spread out some dub trio shows (i don't believe in
BWT) so if you email me i'll give you a logon to my site to
check them out...if u don't know, super tight live dub from NYC  



From: "Jason Sherrett" <sherrett@speakeasy.net>
Subject: Re: Wha?
Reply-to: sherrett@speakeasy.net
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:16:20 +0000

I didn't say the DAT medium is dead, but rather the DAT Heads mailing lis=
t seems to be dead. I still record to DAT regularly, and hope the hardwar=
e remains useful to me for many years to come. I just needed a pointer to=
 a forum where I can still ask DAT and related questions, and it appears =
taperssection.com is the place to go. Thanks all.

-Jason


================

Jason exclaimed:
>
> So since this list is kinda dead now...

Are you kidding?

Some of you might think that DAT is going the way of
the Dodo (or to put it in tech terms, beta), but what
you pessimists don't realize is that when a medium has
been so useful and so viable for so long, it doesn't
slip away. If one looks to History for answers we find
that people are still recording onto tape, and
_prefer_ it for it's natural analog sound.
Certainly the same arguement can't be given for DAT,
but it's been around a very long time.
It wasn't until fairly recently that betacams were out
out to pasture. Long after consumer beta died,
professionals still used the medium. Betacams are
still very expensive because they're still useful, but
most find that DV is cheaper with similar results.

DAT was never a consumer medium. Because of that there
are warehouses full of data stored on DATs (my home
bing one of them). It would be foolish for the
principle makers of DAT hardware to abandon the
medium.

I think it's easy to jump on the bandwagon for the new
exciting "upgrade" in technology, but as we've seen
with the renewed interest in vinyl by even those who
weren't born when the first CDs hit stores, tried and
true formats will stick around as long as they need
to...which may well be long after even the most
hardcore among us have long passed on to something
else.

Aadam




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