DAT-heads Digest #87
Contents:
MicroTrack 24/96 M AUDIO ("kees van de broeke")
dvd-r archive thread... (Nick Zuccaro)
archiving ("Alasdair Macdonald")
Neko Case and John Rauhouse taping policy? ("Uncle Wilco")
JJ Grey and Morfro taping policy? ("Uncle Wilco")
Tapes N Tapes taping policy ("Uncle Wilco")
Archiving flacs ("Paul Kaytes")
Archiving Audio ("Scott")
From: "kees van de broeke" <keesbroeke@hotmail.com>
Subject: MicroTrack 24/96 M AUDIO
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:41:31 +0000
the new generation digital audio recorders is here.
Does anyone have experienced working with
the MicroTrack 24/96 M AUDIO.
Please let me know,
thanks Bandi from The Netherlands
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From: Nick Zuccaro <nmz77@yahoo.com>
Subject: dvd-r archive thread...
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
i have been thinking about this too strangely enough, my
conclusion has been to set up a huge RAID array and make an
archive on that, with the plus of being availabe via private ftp
or public hosting - it's searchable too, so no need for
spreadsheets. RAID prevents data loss from drive failure, which
is bound to happen eventually. using discs (dvd, cd) has been my
previous method but disc sizes will always get larger - remember
copying your .shn cds to dvd? the same thing will keep on
happening, but on a drive based system the migration to a larger
sandbox is way easier. one other alternative is to use dvds and
get a 400+ disc carousel changer so you can access them for
playback, backup, etc. i heard that the archivist for the dmb
burns cdrs, puts them in a vac-seal bag then puts a stack in a
piece of pvc drain pipe (impact resistance?) and then stacks
them up wherever. off-site backups are pretty important too for
things like house fires, hurricanes etc. so in that case, make
TWO copies of your archive and keep it at a GOOD buddy's house.
i'm sure he will thank you :)
Nick
From: "Alasdair Macdonald" <alimac@netcomuk.co.uk>
Subject: archiving
Reply-to: alimac@netcomuk.co.uk
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:32:15 -0000
Second try, hope this comes through this time.
> From: jw@thewhitleys.com
> Subject: RE: DVD and CD organizer for archives?
> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:41:42 -0800
>
>
> I archive my .flac and .shn files on DVD-R's labeled
> dvd2007-01, =20 dvd2007-02, dvd2007-03, etc. I also include
> the .flac frontend and my =20 excel spreasheet on the dvd (30
> years from now .flac may be a dead =20 format). While I'm
> doing this, I log all the entries in an excel =20 spreadsheet.
> I log dvd#, band, venue, city, date, source, format and =20
> comments. Someday I will have an Access database built which
> will =20 allow me to sort and search based all these criteria.
> Finally, after =20 years of my organization consisting of
> cardboard boxes of loose cds on =20 spindles, I can find any
> recording I want whenever I want. This is =20 mostly my new
> material only, the old stuff is slowing getting =20 catalogued
> in as I archive my dat tapes.
>
>
> Any database guys here who would like to polish up the Access
> database?
Your method should include archiving of the flac binaries and/or
source, not *just* the frontend. I do the same, whenever I
compile a CD flac (or shn) archive I start off with a saved Nero
layout that comprises the revant programs for shn and flac. If
the data I wish to burn reaches the capacity of the disc and I
need to exclude the shn and flac programs, I do so, but even so
99% of my archived data discs include the necessary programs.
As to the future proof-ness of flac, its longevity should be
assumed to be any different from Microsoft Excel or Access
formats. Better to use the most up to date standards, if
possible. I don't have MS Office at home, but at least I can open
and save Excel formats using OpenOffice. It certainly looks like
we will have broad acceptance of new spreadsheet and word
processed documents in the next few years, and that they will be
designed with future proof-ness in mind.
Having said that, csv will probably outlast us all ...
Alasdair
From: "Uncle Wilco" <unclewilco@hotmail.com>
Subject: Neko Case and John Rauhouse taping policy?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:47:43 -0500
hey All-does anyone know if Neko Case and John Rauhouse allow taping on the
current tour? Thanks Aaron
From: "Uncle Wilco" <unclewilco@hotmail.com>
Subject: JJ Grey and Morfro taping policy?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:49:29 -0500
Hey All-does anyone know if JJ Grey and Morfro allow taping? Thanks Aaron
From: "Uncle Wilco" <unclewilco@hotmail.com>
Subject: Tapes N Tapes taping policy
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:50:26 -0500
Hey All-Does anyone know if Tapes N Tapes allow recording? Thanks Aaron
From: "Paul Kaytes" <pkaytes@att.net>
Subject: Archiving flacs
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:54:58 -0400
> I archive my .flac and .shn files on DVD-R's labeled dvd2007-01, =20
> dvd2007-02, dvd2007-03, etc. I also include the .flac frontend and my
> =20 excel spreasheet on the dvd (30 years from now .flac may be a dead
> =20 format).
You might also want to include a copy of a Windows installer on one of those
DVDs. In 20 years, flac frontend may no longer run, as a lot of programs
currently don't run on Vista, especially shareware, which are less likely to
be updated to the then-current OS. If you have a copy of Windows 98 or XP,
at least you'll probably be able to load it on an old machine, then run flac
frontend to recover your music.
Take care,
Paul
From: "Scott" <s.w.goodwin@gmail.com>
Subject: Archiving Audio
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:50:54 -0400
I just bought five 250-gig hard disks for $59 each. Add a $19 HD enclosure
which implements USB 2.0, and you're out $78 on a 250-gig, making your GB
cost, what, $0.33? Add to that a lifespan (when used sparingly and stored
appropriately) of at very least equal to DVD-R (and very likely far, far
longer), and I have no idea why people are still trying to burn discs to
store music. Maybe to back up a treasured master, but otherwise, why not
just use a hard drive?
I mean, I sat down and thought about how long it would take to archive my
collection (answer: four or five months of 24-7 ripping without renaming
files or sleeping), but then realized that, except for a few treasured
recordings, everything I would rip is out there on the net, losslessly, for
download. So why spend a year or two of weekends ripping stuff that is
there for the taking already?
Me, I'm filling up hard drives that are chained to my machine, all turned
off when I'm not using them. When I want to find something, I power them
up, and search for the recording I want. Takes almost no time at all. I've
got a couple of easily searchable terabytes of flac/shn/wav, and the total
cost was well under a grand. I'd hate to calculate the cost of my
collection of 4000 hours of burnt audio, all on quality audio discs in
single jewels with hand-made labels, even if I used minimum wage as my pay
rate for the time I spent to amass, burn, label and store it all...
SWG
PS: And, no, I still don't listen to MP3s. And, yes, I have a program I
wrote that catalogs it all, even though it doesn't help me find anything
outside of it being in alphabetical order on the racks.
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